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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 03:19 #18498

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OK, sometimes I'm kind of dense.

For puzzle caches, there is an option on the cache page to correct the coordinates to the real ones after you solve. I used to just enter my solved coordinates as a Personal Cache Note so I'd have them for future use, but I think I might want to switch to using the corrected coordinates instead.

I played around with it for a bit, but I'm not understanding everything it does.

When I correct the coordinates for a puzzle:
Will the icon on the geocaching.com map move to where the final coordinates are or will it stay on the listed (bogus) coords of the cache?
When I download a PQ with the corrected coordinates to a puzzle, will it be saving the listed coords or the corrected coords?
If I correct the coords for a cache and save it to my GPS, will I be able to select the cache and just navigate to it like I would with a traditional cache?

Can somebody help me out with this?
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 05:41 #18499

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Quite frankly, it has limited value in my opinion, so I don't use the feature. I believe it was provided for those who use smart phones as a way of loading the corrected coords into your phone without having use something like GSAK. If you correct the coords on the cache page (by clicking on the little pencil icon next to the coords - real intuitive), you are prompted to enter the corrected coords (such as the solved final for a puzzle, or final stage of a multi, or even someone else's more accurate coords).

The new coords replace the posted coords, but not always. If you download the GPX file for that cache from the cache page, you'll get the corrected coords for it, and only the corrected coords. But on the cache page, you'll see both the posted coords and the corrected coords on the map, with a line drawn between it. But if you view the cache on Google Maps (by clicking on the link on the left), you'll only see the corrected coords location, and not the posted coords. But if you click on the "View Larger Map" link (where it shows all the caches in that area), it shows the icon at the posted coords, not the corrected coords. Likewise, if you do a pocket query, you'll get a GPX file with the posted coords, not the corrected coords. (this has now been fixed, so pocket queries will download corrected coords). So sometimes it works the way you want, other times it doesn't.

I prefer to keep the posted coords, and update with the corrected coords in GSAK. In GSAK, you can include the posted coords as a child waypoint (or, keep the posted coords and the solved coords as a child waypoint) in case you need both, such as when the posted coords are the parking coords, or trailhead, etc. You can't do that with GC's corrected coords feature. And if you don't get the corrected coords on a query, what good is it?

As for navigating to the corrected coords in your GPS, yes, that works fine (so long as you don't override it with a pocket query). As far as your GPSr (or smart phone) is concerned, there is no difference between corrected coords and posted coords for navigation. It's as if the CO changed changed the posted coords with the solved coords. But only if you download the GPX file from the cache page, and not with a pocket query.

I continue to use the cache notes feature to keep track of the corrected coords. Cache notes are visible on the cache page, and are downloaded in the GPX files, so if you have a Garmin smart GPS (like the Oregon, Colorado, 62, etc.), you'll see the cache note in the description.

Supposedly, Groundspeak was supposed to fix this (what I consider) bug, but has not done so yet. With their track record, it's probably about as high on their priority list as bringing back Virtuals and Challenges.
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 12:56 #18500

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Aaahhhh.... I understand now!

Seems silly that the corrected coords only work in certain instances. When you change them, they should change everywhere. You explained exactly the problems I was running into.

I appreciate it, Grunreise - Thanks!!!!
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 15:23 #18501

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The corrected coordinate feature does need a little tweaking. Grunriese pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The correct coordinates will come down in a PQ, however, there is no indication that that are corrected.
They will show up on the small map on the cache page (or maybe I have enough GreaseMonkey scripts running to do this), but they don't show up on the Geocaching.com Map Search View.

Oddly enough, the corrected coordinates do not show up on the phone apps.

I do prefer to just do everything in GSAK. I've generally upload my caches to my GPS from GSAK and not from gc.com

As I use the phone app more and more, I do have a couple of saved PQ on the app, specifically, so I can get the solved coordinates for some of the puzzles.
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 17:23 #18502

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Corrected Coordinates show up in c:geo. And then the original coordinates are listed as a waypoint.
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 12 Feb 2013 22:14 #18504

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jeffa62 wrote:
Corrected Coordinates show up in c:geo. And then the original coordinates are listed as a waypoint.

Of course, because c:geo "scrapes" the gc.com sites maps! :laugh:

Actually, I just discovered that the corrected coordinate do show up in the iPhone app as an additional waypoint.
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 15 Feb 2013 21:59 #18529

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It would be nice if both the original and the corrected coordinates came through in the .gpx as sometimes the posted coordinates are for parking.

I use it but it is annoying that when you view on the larger map it reverts to the posted coords. I usually look at the larger map so I can see the satellite images (which I don't think is viewable on the cache page map).

Oh well - I still find it useful :)
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 16 Feb 2013 19:04 #18543

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Thanks to everybody who chimed in. I definitely understand now. I'll fill in the corrected coordinates whenever I solve a puzzle and keep a backup written down just in case.
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Explain Corrected Coordinates to me please 16 Feb 2013 20:48 #18547

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You can always get the original posted coords back by clicking on the pencil, and selecting "restore." And of course you can save either the original, corrected, or both in the notes field as backup.
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